Wednesday, October 8, 2008

Doug Phillips on the Palin Issue VS the Council of Biblical Womanhood and Manhood (CBMW)

Question One:

Is it now your view that God can call a woman to serve as president of the United States? Are you prepared to renounce publicly any further claim that God's plan is for men rather than women to exercise leadership in society, the workplace and public life? Do you acknowledge having become full-fledged egalitarians in this sphere at least?

CBMW Answers:

The Bible calls women to specific roles in the church and home, but does not prohibit them from exercising leadership in secular political fields. Therefore we must be careful to not go beyond the teaching of the Bible. A president is not held to the same moral standards as an elder of a church. While it is a blessing from God to have ethical or even Christian political leaders, the Bible places no such requirements on secular governments. Even though the Bible reserves final authority in the church for men, this does not apply in the kingdom of this world.

Vision Forum Ministries Responds:

1. Dr. Gushee has identified a genuine inconsistency in the position of our semi-complementarian/semi-egalitarian friends. In our view, this inconsistency cannot be justified on the grounds of Scripture, nor of sound reason.

Also, I think it is important to begin by observing that our friends at CBMW have not provided clear answers to several key points raised in the five questions by Dr. Gushee. The question was asked: "Do you acknowledge having become full-fledged egalitarians in this sphere at least?"

No answer is given by CBMW. Yet it seems clear that this is exactly what has happened. At this point, there is no clearly distinguishable difference between the feminist understanding of male/female distinctions and civil leadership and the position of CBMW. As to their view of the jurisdiction of the state, both are full-blown egalitarians. If substantive differences exist between the two positions, they are not immediately apparent, and the burden of proof is on CBMW to explain to us what they are.

2. CBMW responds by making four assertions: (1) the Bible does not prohibit women from serving as civil magistrates: 2) Presidents are not held to the same moral standards as pastors; (3) The Bible does not establish any ethical standards for the leadership of "secular governments."; and (4) the leadership distinctions between men and women which apply in the Church do not apply in "the kingdom of this world." In this blog post, I will address the first claim.

First, the claim that the Bible does not prohibit women from serving as civil magistrates is false. In fact, the Bible has a great deal to say about the requirements for civil magistrates, which you can read about here, here, and here. It is true that there is no verse that says, "a woman may not be a civil magistrate," but it is also true that there is no verse which says "a woman may not be an elder." The case for the biblical requirements for elder and civil magistrate are both based on: (1) the doctrine of the creation order distinctions between men and women; (2) the positive commands about the distinctive role differences between men and women; (3) the negative commands and warnings directed against those who would violate this creation order principle; and, importantly, (4) the positive commands which specifically require that both civil magistrates and elders be male.

Second, the undefended assertion that the Bible does not prohibit women from being civil magistrates is irresponsible in light of the fact that such a perspective is inconsistent with the majority view of orthodox Christianity throughout Church history articulated by such great Reformers as John Knox and John Calvin, the former of whom write that: "To promote a woman to bear rule, superiority, dominion or empire above any realm, nation, or city, is repugnant to nature, contumely to God, [and] a thing most contrary to his revealed will and approved ordinance. . . ."[9]

Third, to get around the many commands of Scripture found in the Old Testament, semi-complementarians must argue that the general precepts and patterns found in the Old Testament are largely obsolete and inapplicable to modern society. (The one exception to this rule is that they want to be able to cite the Israelite prophetess Deborah as an example of a civil magistrate, an argument which: (a) shows their inconsistency, and (b) has been defeated by Reformers and present-day theologians like William Einwechter)[10]

3. The arbitrary restriction of the doctrine of complementarianism and the creation order to the realm of church and family is not only illogical, it is a departure from CBMW's position in the past in which they formally opposed women in combat, freely citing extensive precepts from the Old Testament, building their argument around the doctrine of the creation order itself, and showing the clear link between complementarian responsibilities in the home and those of manly civil responsibility through military service.

Below are segments from their position paper on "Women in Combat: A Resolution From CBMW," which was adopted on November 23, 1996:

WHEREAS, God created male and female with specific and complementary characteristics (Gen. 1:27), declaring them "good" (Gen. 1:31) so that male and female in relationship constitute a complete expression of the divine order for humanity, yet without blurring or denying the meaning or significance of gender-based distinctions established by God in the created order; and

WHEREAS, The equality of male and female as to dignity and worth, following from their creation in the image of God (Gen. 1:27), is fully consistent with and is in no way contrary to gender-based distinctions as to roles and responsibilities which are also established in the created order; and

WHEREAS, God, by creating Adam first (Gen. 2:18; 1 Cor. 11:8) and also by creating woman for man (Gen. 2:18,20,22; 1 Cor. 11:9), has set the gender-based role and responsibility of males in the most basic unit of society (the family) to be that of leader, provider and self-sacrificial protector (also cf. Eph. 5:25; 1 Peter 3:7), and likewise has set the gender-based role and responsibility of females to be that of help and nurture (Gen. 2:18) and life-giving (Gen. 3:20) under male leadership and protection (cf. 1 Peter 3:7); and

WHEREAS, Intentional rejection of the connection between male headship in the family and the male protective role that defines and justifies service as a soldier in military combat necessarily strikes at the complementary nature of male and female relationships established in the order of creation, and unavoidably undermines the order, structure, strength and stability of families within any society that determines to ignore, deny or erase this gender-based distinction; and

WHEREAS, The pattern established by God throughout the Bible is that men, not women, bear responsibility to serve in combat if war is necessary (Gen. 14:14; Num. 31:3,21,49; Deut. 20:5-9,13-14; Josh. 1:14-18; 6:3,7,9; 8:3; 10:7; 1 Sam. 16:18; 18:5; 2 Sam. 11:1; 17:8; 23:8-39; Ps. 45:3-5; Song of Sol. 3:7-8; Isa. 42:13); and

WHEREAS, Biblical examples that record women serving in combat (Jud. 4:4-23) are presented as contrary to proper and normal gender-based distinctions between male and female roles and responsibilities, and as caused by a failure of male leadership that is worthy of shame (Jud. 4:9-10); and . . .

Note that the 1996 statement by CBMW wisely reminds the Church that those rare and non-normative examples of role reversals in the Scripture such as Deborah (Jud. 4:4-23) are reminders of male abdication "worthy of shame." They are not meant to be examples for emulation, CBMW argues, nor does their inclusion in Scripture justify the suspension of the duty of men, not women, to lead. Yet this is precisely what semi-complementarians such as CBMW's Executive Director David Kotter are attempting to do in 2008 by excluding the numerous patterns and precepts found in Scripture that demonstrate the complementarian mandate for male leadership in the civil jurisdiction while attempting to justify support for Sarah Palin based upon the non-analogous and non-normative example of the Israelite prophetess Deborah.[11] CBMW has done an about-face on Deborah by using her example to justify Sarah Palin's bid for the vice presidency while stating in 1996 that it was a sign "worthy of shame."

Note also that, in the 1996 Resolution, the Old Testament patterns and precepts are widely invoked to build the case that gender distinctions apply to the civil responsibility of military service. Why in 2008 are the Old Testament passages on qualifications, male responsibility, and civil jurisdiction ignored or dismissed as irrelevant? Has the Word of God changed over the last twelve years?

Furthermore, if CBMW was correct in their 1996 Resolution that these principles apply to non-elected representatives of the United States military serving the federal government, how much more should these same principles apply to an elected Commander in Chief who would preside over all of the military?[12]

Finally, note that in 1996, CBMW was willing to reach the conclusion that it is the duty of men, not women, to lay their lives on the lines in military service because: (a) women are to be nurturers and helpers "under male leadership and protection," but not leaders; (b) God requires men to be leaders, providers, and self-sacrificial protectors. In fact, CBMW even argued that placing women in combat "unavoidably undermines the order, structure, strength and stability of families within any society that determines to ignore, deny or erase this gender-based distinction."

We believe that excellent organizations like CBMW cannot reasonably argue that having women serve in military combat "unavoidably undermines the order, structure, strength and stability of families within any society that determines to ignore, deny or erase this gender-based distinction," but that promoting a mother of young children to rule over a nation (including her husband) as Chief Executive and Commander in Chief of the military does not. The argument strains credulity.

Yes on Amendment 48 in CO

http://vimeo.com/1155490

Amendment 48 defines life as happening at conception--and if the amendment passes, that definition will be added to the Colorado Constitution! This video is amazing...

Tuesday, October 7, 2008

Update +

This morning began a three hour flight to Atlanta, followed by a one hour flight to Orlando. So, yes, we're in Florida! It's our annual Family Vacation and a lot of our family members live here. Anyway, that's what we'll be up to! I will update the family blog www.cochranfamily101.blogspot.com while we're here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04B3Wl2qouw
This link is an interesting YouTube on Ron Paul predicting the bail out! I am a fan of Ron Paul for his ultra conservative ways. You NEED to read his book: The Revolution: A Manifesto. I wish he was the republican nominee... *sigh* God is sovereign!

Wednesday, September 10, 2008

Prayerful, or Pragmatic?

Why Sarah Palin Inspires Us
Posted September 6, 2008, by Elizabeth Botkin


The nation is aglow over the manifold triumphs of women over the last century, reaching their climax during this years’ election. Women have never been so close to holding the “highest” position in the country, that of Chief Executive, and woman’s collective journey has been a major political theme this month. In Senator Hillary Clinton’s speech at the Democratic National Convention, she made an impressive statement, putting a face on how far our nation has come: “My mother was born before women could vote. My daughter got to vote for her mother for president.”

Powerful women on all sides are taking big strides — and will be bequeathing quite a future to their daughters. That means us. How should we see this future, and how should we respond to their example?

In the opinion of just two of these American daughters, this picture is troubling, and brings with it promises of more trouble. Part of the tragedy, as we see it, is that it’s not just secular feminists who are excited about this future. Christians across the nation are cheering the entrance of Mrs. Palin, forgetting that, according to the biblical qualifications for a civil magistrate, she as a woman is not qualified to hold this office (Ex. 18:21, Pro. 31:23, 1 Tim. 2:12).[1] We believe that Mrs. Palin’s appointment as civil ruler, and indeed the feminist strides that made it possible, are a judgment from God (Isa. 3:12). We’re already suffering from one consequence of this judgment more severely than America realizes.

An exultant Ann Coulter scored a bulls eye in (unwittingly) identifying this judgment in the title of her first piece on Palin: “The Best Man Turned Out To Be A Woman.”

To be honest, we’re impressed with Sarah Palin. She is a remarkably talented, well-spoken woman. She has many fine policies. And we like her practical, moose-hunting style of femininity. But it is not a day to rejoice when the best man in the room happens to be a woman — nor is it a cause for cheer when men can’t compete with women in doing their own job. During this year’s unprecedented election, the key players have been strong women and flaky men. This is a sign of judgment. The scenario is reminiscent of Gloria Steinem’s boast, “We are becoming the men we wanted to marry.” Men have been stepping into the background — women are trying to become the men they wish existed. We challenge any young woman to see this as a happy prospect. It’s hard to be inspired by the abdication of real men and the subsequent rise of pseudo-men. (Interestingly, Gloria Steinem has little confidence that American women will go for Palin, who, in Steinem’s words, “opposes everything most other women want and need.”[2] We believe she underestimates the inconsistency of Evangelical feminists. Ms. Steinem, on the other hand, remains one of the most consistent men in the room; she will not compromise her radical left-wing principles just to support another woman.)

American Christians may be turning their ears from the plain teachings of Scripture to harken to what they believe is “the crying need of the moment.” They may decide our desperate need for a conservative VP trumps the teachings of Scripture. But we know from Scripture that we are to fear God, and not men — not even liberals. It has been rightly noted that people usually get the government they deserve. If we continue to make pragmatic compromises based on fear of man, God may see fit to continue chastising us with the government we deserve. God is on the Throne, regardless of who is in the White House, and He declares: “Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.” (Psa. 3:6)

The people are right that America has desperate, crying needs. However, Mrs. Palin’s nomination for the Vice Presidency is not answering the cry — it is making it louder. Looking back over the last year, what’s glaringly obvious is that what America needs is more qualified male leaders. The real cry of the moment is: Give us men!
Seeing women in leadership does not inspire men to be better leaders. We believe Sarah Palin’s example will not inspire men to be men — it will inspire them to make way for more Sarah Palins.

So how are strong women supposed to respond when men are not being men? The example of the prophetess Deborah, though set in a time of more severe judgment than ours, gives interesting insights. She was living in a time when “the children of Israel again did evil in the sight of the Lord” (Judges 4:1), “Village life ceased” (Judges 5:7), and the leaders had not been leading (Judges 5:2). Despite the desperation of the time, Deborah clearly did not become a civil magistrate or “judge” in the modern sense of the word, nor did she run for any kind of office, nor did she sit in the gates (Judges 4:5). Even when pushed toward positions of leadership, Deborah never actually took the reins of authority, but rather extended them to Barak and stood supportively behind him (Judges 4:6, 4:14). Deborah succeeded in bringing a man into leadership, rather than take the leadership herself.

So why are we inspired by Sarah Palin? Because her example puts a stronger fire in us to answer the cry, the way we believe God intended. We are more inspired than ever to help our father, brothers, husbands and sons to fill the role we are not called to fill. It has rightly been observed that women have already been elected to the highest position they can hold, and that any “promotion” in the civil sphere would be a step backward. Their womanly sphere is where this hurting nation needs them most.

So let us resolve to give the world what it really needs, in the way that only women can give it. We have our work cut out for us, building strength into our men; It will call out every gift and talent within us. In doing so, we’re not just answering the cry — we’re obeying God, Who holds our first allegiance.

Mrs. Palin, you have inspired us to take stronger action for our God and for our country.
As for us, we don’t aspire to become the presidents we wish we could vote for. We aspire to raise them.
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Footnotes:
1. Many excellent, timely articles have already been written on the qualifications for civil magistrate and the role of women — go here for a directory.
2. “Palin: Wrong Woman, Wrong Message,” by Gloria Steinem

This article was from the blog www.visionarydaughters.com The Botkin sisters have written a book and helped their father make a couple worldview movies. I really appreciated their style of writing and how Elizabeth Botkin chose to explain and expound on this issue. Your comments and opinions are welcome!

Wednesday, July 23, 2008

Joy

"If life is water, I was dry as the tucson dirt
If it's a gamble, I'd already lost my shirt
If it's a journey, I was dazed without a clue
I flipped a U back to the first love I ever knew

You give me joy that's unspeakable
and I like it
Your love for me's irresistible
I can't fight it
You carried the cross and took my shame
I believe it
You shine your light of amazing grace
I receive it

If life's a battle the invasion is complete
If' it's a rhythm I have found the perfect beat
If it's a renaissance I've got a new birthday
The world don't give it and the world can't take it away

You give me joy that's unspeakable
and I like it
Your love for me's irresistible
I can't fight it
You carried the cross and took my shame
I believe it
You shine your light of amazing grace
I receive it"

-Joy by Newsboys

I've been singing and praising the Lord with that song a lot lately. I really like Newsboys lately--they have super godly lyrics. Have you heard their new CD go? I love the song "That's where the Party's at" or something like that... Very creative.

Anyway, I've been trying to be more joyful :) I am a naturally unsocial and focused/intense sort of person (I've been told I'm like Mr. Darcy from Pride and Prejudice--except a female version). I really do enjoy doing things with people. But when it comes to just "chatting"--small talk alludes me and trivia is so, um, trivial. But I'm trying to become "all things to all people" as Paul says in the New Testament. And by God's grace, I will succeed!

I've been blogging on our family blog, so take a peek! www.cochranfamily101.blogspot.com

God bless!

Tuesday, July 1, 2008

Puppies!

Elizabeth and I are in Ohio right now visiting our dear relations (my mother's sister and her family) and their golden doodle dog recently had eight adorable puppies! Words cannot describe the delight with which I watch them, play with them, and clean up after them (well, maybe not that last one!). They are about seven weeks old and being sold for $600.00 each. Believe me, if they weren't so expensive, I would somehow find a way to get one--that's how cute they are. Well of course you want to see them! I will be posting pictures on our family blog sometime soon, maybe in a couple days to a week, so you can check there www.cochranfamily101.blogspot.com

I hope and pray you are as happy and content as I am in the Lord! Actually, I hope you are even more so than me *wink* God bless and have a great weekend! Oh, and Happy Fourth of July!

Tuesday, May 20, 2008

He is a Song

The loneliness is bitter
The tell me you have known
No parents and no children
No one to call you home
I pray for you a family
Within the Father's plan
But even more I pray that you will come to understand

That He is a light in the deepest shadow
And the wings of a spirit in flight
He is a spring in the dry burning desert
He is a song in the longest night

There is a holy kinship
You tell me you have known
But in the rush of serving
You wonder where it's gone
I pray you will remember
A younger heart's desire
I pray that He will breathe upon the embers of this fire

He is a light in the deepest shadow
And the wings of a spirit in flight
He is a spring in the dry burning desert
He is a song in the longest night

He is the dearest friend
While others come and go
He is the dearest friend
That you will ever know
May you ever know

That he is a light in the deepest shadow
And the wings of a spirit in flight
He is a spring in the dry burning desert
He is a song in the longest night

-He is a Song by Twila Paris from her album Cry for the Desert

Thursday, May 1, 2008

Spin

I got sent this movie about six months ago and just watched it again... It's really good and could have a couple of different significant meanings (which I'll let you figure out on your own). It is about eight minutes long, but worth the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP59tQf_njc


Wednesday, April 9, 2008

U-Turn

How life changes... My dad has been working at Dove Christian Academy. but he's changed his profession to fix and flips! Fix and flips are houses one buys, fixes, up, and resells (hopefully for a profit). It's been an interesting transition, but God is good. So he's been working with Mike (who already does this) and hopefully will buy his own home sometime in the near future...

I'll admit that sometimes I wonder why God moved us out to Colorado. So here is the Cochran family, way out in Denver, CO, missing their old church and friends in Georgia, and beginning to wonder why about a lot of things. Well, I know Mike loves having us living with him, and has even said we're the best thing that happened to him since he's been in Colorado (he's never had a family) so I guess that could be one reason we came out here (ie: to bless him). And I know we've blessed some other homeschoolers in the area. But the best part to me is that God has tons of other reasons--we just don't know them yet. Oh, and another one is that my dad can make more here doing construction than he could ever make in GA. So it goes... My mind begins to question God, and then he shows me all the blessings he's given us.

Thanks for your prayers and thoughts. God bless!

Wednesday, April 2, 2008

Another Year...

Yep, I am now arrived at the ripe old age of 91, oops, I mean, 19 :) On March 27th (my BD) I was actually being an honorary judge for speech and debate competition. It was a lot of fun and I couldn't have asked for a better way to spend my birthday *wink* But seriously, this year has been incredible. This time last year I would never have in my wildest dreams predicted a move to Colorado, yet here I am! So much has happened this past year, changes for the better most of the time, praise God. He is so good and it's by his grace alone that I make this confession... Part of a song by Michael Card comes to mind:

"There are times in your life when you're really in between
there's people telling you from every side
And the pain of growing up is almost more than you can bear
and all you want to do is run and hide

Don't you know that He loves you?
Don't you know that He cares?
Don't you know that He died to save your soul?
And don't you doubt for a minute that he will"

That song describes how I've felt (off and on) for the past, well, six years! But this last year God has matured me so much that the "pain of growing up" is beginning to subside and I'm finding that I AM grown up. It's rather scary, and there are definitely new pains waiting to take the place of the growing pain, but it's not really like I have a choice. I reiterate that God is so good and I praise and thank his Holy Name for all he's done for me. May he bless you as abundantly as he has blessed me!

I blogged on our family blog with some pics if you are interested. www.cochranfamily101.blogspot.com